His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. I wouldnt. I wish I could ask you more, Cindy murmured. Your stories not over. Passive aggressive and it smacks of Cindys influence. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? For more information, please see our o JAMIE is seven (7) years older than him. CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). The books provide a much deeper and more thorough analysis. Its simply an act of madness. I think that alot of the animus was the gaslighting of the invitations for the engagement party. This blog is meant to make only passing commentary of numerous issues and insights. I mean that is so simple minded and silly. Mum killed alongside two kids has final moments revealed in evil Does anyone know if she's ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? I also do not think it is uncommon for a person to choose a spouse who mirrors the opposite of their personality. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. Didnt Shanann say a few times that Colorado meant a drama-free life? The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. Lets listen: CINDY: I dontseewhy hes pleading guilty. NOTHING. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Reliable enough to trust about nuts. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? Everyone that has tried to help her in the past has ended up breaking free of her because they know how narcissistic she is. His despicable family took up more time than anybody. He is where he belongs and will die there. The footage shows the 33-year-old buying a . THAT is what Shanann was dealing with. Cant understand how they just couldnt focus on being nice with each other for a few hours, just for the children. But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. I think she also said somewhere that shell fight for him no matter what. Copyright 2015 - 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. The nut incident. "Happy . If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts - YouTube We are not here to ask for leniency and are not in any way condoning or tolerating the crime that has occurred or the pain that has been caused their attorney read. Was Shannan a saint? Or read etc. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. Let me end with saying that I dont know what happened that night, but I think that its a tragedy we can all expect to learn from. She was you. He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. What she did do is add to our fami,y and gave me two awesome grandsons. Cindy said they didnt go because she hated Shanann even back then, and was angry because Chris would not obey her wish for him to stop being with her. We know what she was like. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. As Shanann asked her too. I had a mother in law like Cindy Watts. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. Shes a piece of work, that one. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. Shanann was always in control. There's More To Chris Watts' Murder Of His Family That - Medium Cindi is truly an evil psychotic person. But Shanann accused them of tampering with her food. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. Shanann herself fed CeCe Thrive bars with nuts in them, but it was coconut which isnt considered a true tree nut. The Watts family seems so weird and like they're missing the empathy "gene." This thread is archived Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. She was pretty controlling. She left a bag of pistachio nuts down on a low shelf, within reach of a 3 year old. Theres people who believe Chris is a good guy, there are people who believe hes a monster, and then there are people who understand the complexity of the human condition and what might drive a person to a psychotic break which I think is exactly what happened. "Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two. What if he married Shanann because, in some strange way, she reminded him of his mom? She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. We have a great relationship because of that. There cant be a reason or any underlying dynamic leading to murder, nor can there be any premeditation. JAMIE left numerous times after high school and would always move back home. CW looks miserable on his wedding day whilst she looks elated she has her whole family there after all. Its a shame that his family couldnt just roll with it for the sake of Chris. Charged with misdemeanor child abuse. Chris Watts on his wedding is his true self: a pudgy, pussy-whipped basic white male. Trinket doesnt say much, does she? She works with patients in home care. Watts Family Tapes: A World Exclusive Prison Visit with - Facebook Or send them back to Shanaan. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. THAT DOES NOT GIVE CHRIS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID. He killed 2 children and one unborn, what more do we need to know why? jamie williams (chris's sister) : r/Chriswatts - Reddit You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister Frankie William Rzucek Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. I know she didnt attend the court sentencing etc. Locked post. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. I have two sons and there is nothing or anyone who could keep me from attending his wedding. This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. We just love you. I am not doing a book on this, interviews are not books. I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. As to whether people attend weddings when one of their children is thrown out of the wedding, I dont know thats a personal choice, but it would be a hard one. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. He is a prison success story and she risked that reputation. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! Thats just not factual at all. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side. Shannan seems like the type of person who would be really difficult to live with and difficult to satisfy. Its so difficult for me to fathom not getting along your, Ill just call it same-sex in-law because it happens in both cases. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. I carry grudges. Wow..I think that you, like Cindy Watts, do not understand how dangerous a nut allergy is. Border agent dies and two others are 'gravely' injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected smuggler also dead after two Americans arrested. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. Watts Family Tapes The Event ONLY on YouTube and Facebook October 23rd 9-11pm EST Add the event to your calendar here:. I think the pro Shanann camp needs to remember that discussing WHY Chris killed Shanann is NOT justifying what he did. Im not going to name them. Not sure the outcome. No excuse for murder none at all. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. No. Were all just people. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? And his father enabled it. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. Cindy Watts was in a power game that she couldnt win. But it does change the dynamics 11 mo. Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. Chris Watts was clearly seen by his folks to be a perfect member of society, loved and liked by all [just like Scott Peterson]. Blocking them on Facebook, refusing to come to Celestes birthday, sending her gift to Colorado rather than sending it over to her birthday party. I just find it odd that shes been totally MIA in this investigation, one reddit user questioned. They lived in different States and only had to put up with each other for a little while. Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. God bless those poor victims. Such a terribly sad case. Another added, I wish the sister would talk, maybe she can give some insight as to why her brother is a lunatic and as to why he wouldnt just divorce her, screw his tramp on the side and move on., Watts and his then-coworker, Nichol Kessinger, began having an affair in June 2018, two months before the slayings. Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. and our Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. Privacy Policy. Email In Touch at contact@intouchweekly.com. PDF Colorado Bureau of Investigation INVESTIGATIVE SUPPLEMENT 2018-273/17 Especially those girls..Indeed she loathed Shanann, but not her grand daughters. But to just not send them? Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. Cadle, Anna, Kathleen, Jamie's old girlfriends. And they can record all they want. For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. Whats more, Cindy Watts, 64, claims her son has immense public support noting she doesnt care about the murders. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. The grew up in a low class family. Cheers We love you and forgive you, son., As for Ronnie, he said that he forgave his son for his actions too. The Watts Family Tapes will premier onFacebook Live Oct. 23 at no cost. They say its victim blaming, but a lot of the people who say that are also current or former MLMs and they identify very directly with her. Thats ridiculous . In front of Shanann was Chris dad holding hands with Bella and Chris mom walked beside his dad. Chris Watts Exclusive The Watts Family Tapes, Cindy Watts "I - YouTube I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. I had a fantastic relationship with my mother-in-law. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. No, none of us are. I have a daughter in law, in my opinion the greater onus is on me to get along with her. If you dont get a chill, then I must be out to lunch. I would never go by myself with my children to visit such a vicious woman like Cindi. Chris Watts' Family: His Mom and Dad Don't Think He's Guilty Exclusive Prison Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His I think the reason why she and Chris mom didnt get along was due to that they were very similar. Unless you have ever been victimized by a narcissistic toxic family, you really have no understanding of the level of dysfunction happening to the targeted victim. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. But Cindy seems to have been quite down to Earth, simple and practical, and Shanann none of those things. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. They were fighting, money problems ,being sued by the homeowners association. Shanann got the wrath that was really meant for Mom-Watts. They really dont wake up one morning deciding to abuse their kids, steal or kill. No way his mother would have said that crap. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. Both were high powered women, both were the in charge types, both married passive, easy going guys who seemed to be OK with doing things their wifes way. On the one hand he had his wife complaining, and on the other, a lover selling him dreams. Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). This nightmare has to be over for everybody.. Chris Watts stares down wife's friend after he returns home to find You are the first person who has suggested this. Youve heard of divorce, right? That woman was lying when she said she loves her son. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. No, you dont get that she had a problem. Watts Family Tapes The Event - Crime Chicken Fried - Facebook Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. She even waited for her husband to run out of the house on an errand to expose CeCe to the nuts. She suffered enough. They appeared to be walking through an open mall cafes, shops the sun was setting. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Having said that, for CW parents to feel so strongly about Shannan that they didnt attend their own sons wedding then there must be a whole lot more to this that we dont know or understand. Go ahead and make up stuff. Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. I had a wonderful mother in law and I take from her how to treat a daughter in law. Not sure what more she wanted in a daughter-in-law. WHY???? "Do you have any idea where she is?" She even printed a special t-shirt for him to wear on Fathers Day, and took a picture of him wearing it. Then to as far as I am aware, there was a baby shower, that Cindy and Jamie had for Shanann, I,ve seen pictures of it. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. I dont care what you did I love you so much and thats all there is to it!. He decided not to create waves. I cant imagine anyone willfully doing something that could cause the death of a child that they love. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. After after she is brutally murdered along with her children, her husbands family is waging a smear campaign against her and trying to salvage their own public image. They cant have been too bad then!!! Its not professional, Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate. (His defense attorney) shut me down. I dont want him to take this plea deal. Many people dont understand the severity of nut allergies. Its been nearly three years since Chris Watts pleaded guilty to murdering his pregnant wife,Shanann Watts, and their two daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, but his family still isnt convinced hes a killer. Do you hear yourself? o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. I agree. Watch out! It was very obvious in the video that they didnt like her at all. \"Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy \u0026 Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far.\"Chris Watts Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVxQLTsXwHrd3TjIHmOWhCKbuD07llQ6ZThis video is for educational purposesDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/Become a Patron:www.patreon.com/JimevaCrimeTime Zoom in on his eyes. Thanks for the link JC. Maybe for peace . I do suspend any judgement on Shanann. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Jamie Lyn Williams, the sister of Colorado killer Chris Watts appears in an exclusive prison sit-down with her brother. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. But she disregarded the allergies. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. 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