I, however, think its actually pretty neat. !Okay, so admittedly Im only 400 pages into ACOSF, and I do think that SJMs writing is far better in this book. Derek Hough Tour Dancers, It's Nesta that has to clean up Rhysand's mess. First of all, do you love Rhysand? She was the good one, and no one can say that's not a viable reason for Nesta to hate her. he's got to be suffering from ptsd with everything that happened to his family and his mate. Nesta Archeron (pronounced: Nes-tah) is the sister of Feyre and Elain Archeron. SJM has yet to manage to kill of an important character. Rhys eventually finds her and explains his actions, prompting Feyre to accept the mating bond. Hopefully Im continuing Acosf and maybe my opinion is going to change. Rhys is probably the sanest out of all of these people. Heres the thing a lot of people like to leave out: even though Feyre was angry/upset in the first few moments SHE. Rhys is considering killing Nesta?!? "To the stars who listen and the dreams that are answered. p. 330: I actually think its really neat that the baby has wings! So when he stumbled, at the end, he was seeing the face of his long-lost betrothed. That makes total sense . p. 579: These two have some serious communication issues. (I mean, thats literally what Im doing right now, so ). And youd better stay furious with your oh-so-great mate for a while! Dr Colin Mctari, royal asia vegetable spring rolls microwave instructions, Timedatectl System Clock Synchronized: No, When Is The Pineapple Festival In Jensen Beach, Florida, nutrition for high school football players. Seriously though, I really don't get it? p. 690: Feyre letting Nesta hold a bow once is supposed to have made her an expert? p. 345: Wow, everyone seems so excited that Nesta is okay. Which is kinda sad. p. 737: The Cauldron let Nesta keep some of its power? why does rhysand hate nesta Please be nice and don't steal my content! p. 506: This speech was very nice and all, Cassian, but why did you nearly let Nesta kill herself and be extremely unkind to her before having it? Even I have shot a bow before, and trust me, I would not be able to do this. Tamlin was so dreamy *sigh*, but Rhysand mysterious drew me to him in just a few pages, like.. men, that was fast. And at some point, I think that she realized she was wrong, but thought it was too late to "care" and "atone" for her mistake. This has got to be a first I mean, how can a SJM protagonist not be the absolute best at everything and have everybody know it? Or try to make an alliance with Bellius and company I mean, would they really not have made it? ". : This whole conversation is just ridiculous and extremely belittling. like yea that's the . Rhys wants Nesta to seduce Eris? Seriously, Nesta? I knew something was going on underneath all those darkness. p. 159: How do people in this world know about lactic acid? p. 501: Of course you count, Nesta! p. 336: Okay, this sounds even worse than I imagined. We are mere acquaintances. "I just couldn't think of anything else to say." . Varian and Amren begin a physical relationship after a battle with Hybern, and she later admits that she might feel something like love for him. p. 682: This is all awfully convenient. p. 328: I love how Cassian kept watch by Nestas bed. The black water nipping at her thrashing heels was freezing.. edit: Yes besties I also totally agree Nesta sucks as a person she's a terrible abuser of Feyre but I also kinda hate Feyre so I appreciate the Feyre bashing. p. 185: Ah yes, post-masturbation awkwardness. Discuss Everything About A Court of Thorns and Roses Wiki | Fandom He's a good leader" like boo no he's not. p. 469: Why didnt Nesta marry this duke guy, then? . What, is it the size of a walrus or something?? Cause that mf is a fucking hypocrite. Women use their powers to magically engorge their birth canals so they can bear their lovely mates more children. If giving birth is so dangerous, shouldnt she know about it? p. 577: Im so confused. Activereading on Instagram: "The Archeron sisters from A Court of Feyre deserves this perfect life, even though Nesta was awful to her she tried to help her. p. 339: Why??? Rhysand stood by the bar at Rita's, surveying the crowded room with a watchful eye. And don't worry - I'm a black sheep on this one (at this point, I'm considering making a black sheep feature for Happy Indulgence, because it happens so often). Rhysand growls. p. 728: Wait, but what about Emerie and Gwyn? (Edit: Okay, fine. That was HER fault and HER fault only because Rhysand is a fictional character and you can hate him all you want but we have to talk about this. Rhysand arguably takes away Nesta's own autonomy and choices in her living situation and forces her into house arrest under economic coercion and he's supposed to be a feminist? Listen, Im willing to forgive Rhys if Feyre has, but Im sick and tired of people trying to romanticize this extremely toxic behaviour. That's probably another reason why I like her. Rhysand treats all the women in his life with equality and respect, and he reminds Feyre that she always has an independent choice in every matter. Good thing they have Nestas swords. A house that loves to read smutty romance books. Feel free to look around! Ugh stop right there. We get it, okay? "I hate that question," Persephone closed her eyes. Please, Feyre, stand up for your sister! p. 590: Why was this so easy? I completely get not wanting to add stress to your wifes pregnancy, but did Rhysand not know his mate at all??? Seriously, all these people are nuts! Thats just plain weird. I couldnt stop snorting the entire time I was reading it, so I guess Im gonna have to give it 2.5 stars. Also, I love Azriel. p. 708: I still think its dumb that Nesta didnt just go with her friends. I hate Nesta. : r/acotar p. 425: Are Rhys and Feyre even capable of having a conversation without tons of sexual innuendo? He is incredibly handsome and appears to be arrogant, careless, and cold at first. Because ultimately it wasn't that shocking or upsetting that a woman who no one liked went and drank herself stupid by herself. p. 343: At least Feyre isnt putting up with Rhyss overprotective nonsense. Its certainly way better than any of the suggestions they made earlier. Hooray. I dont expect their POVs, but maybe something better when theyre in the scene. But I like her, even though a lot of people hate her. At the sound of Cassian's voice and Rhys's darkness, Nesta stops screaming, and falls unconscious. "To the stars who listen and the dreams that are answered.". But Feyre finds out her own baby can kill her, then has to deal with her immature ass mate threaten to kill her sister for telling her this. p. 605: Ah yes, more convenient modern technology disguised under a different name. I feel like SJM didnt do Feyre or Rhysand justice in ACOSF, Scan this QR code to download the app now. But I can only imagine how truly scared Feyre was, because Rhys would totally kill Nesta if there was no consequences. Why did tamlin and Feyre split? Though my hopes of this lasting long are severely slim. Still, as funny as it is, I hope you find a solution that doesnt require too much work. p. 338: Why is everyone more interested in sex than Feyre possibly dying?! This is not how you treat allies!! now if you'll excuse me, i have to go to the meeting i called to vote on whether or not my sister-in-law is entitled to know her own body's capabilities and limits." This means, when Rhysand comes along, not being a part of Tamlin's manor, she sees hope with him. p. 749: Rhys got upset about Nesta spending too much money on food and now hes buying her tons of useless ornate presents? These males seriously dont think with their brains at all, but with a certain other body part Im going to refrain from mentioning here. Im sure were gonna have a lot more of these, too. He is a close friend of Lucien. How delightfully awkward he was when romancing Feyre? p. 99: Two hundred, counting the ones up, she grumbled. Nice comeback, Nesta, but I still agree with Cassian that thats kind of pathetic. Rhysand can hate nesta as much as he wants and try to persuade feyre to feel the same, but the bottom line is that feyre is desperate for nestas approval/love and will never be truly happy unless she gets it. After this, Tamlin sends her home, where she finds her now wealthy family. He doesnt seriously think Nesta would put her niece/nephew in danger, does he? It did actually turn out to be a boy. Shouldnt you also talk to each other at some point? p. 606: I mean, youre way too good for Cassian, Nesta, but if you want him, stop pushing him away and standing in your own way! I knew something was going on underneath all those darkness. Feyre Archeron (pronounced: Fay-ruh) is the High Lady of the Night Court and the first-ever High Lady of Prythian. Though I do think its kind of odd that only fires would trigger her like this. Remember when we first read a court of thorns and roses and we all loved Tamlin? Im so confused . Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Tamlin | A Court of Thorns and Roses Wiki | Fandom 4. . 2. p. 53: The emphasis on the platonicness of Cassian and Mors relationship is over the top. Also, can someone please explain why they are killing each other in the first place? Well, I think except for HP and PJO, we have opposite book tastes, I did not hate Throne of Glass! What did Rhysand see at the end of Acotar? Both in the first book (although I did like him then, probs because Tamlin was so, so much worse). p. 288: Is it really healthy to start having sex every time an important topic is about to come up in your conversations? "I was planning on using the Harp to hide your court from the rest of Prythian. Rhysand: * makes feyre the first high lady in prythian with no education or experience, while simultaneously ensuring that shes financially emotionally, physically and psychologically dependent on him and that her life revolves around him. Also, Feyre has Illyrian anatomy now? In A Court of Silver Flames he and Nesta are revealed to be mates and Cassian confirms hes suspected she was his from the moment he met her, even if she was still human back then. When someone just mentions her, the room gets tense and I dont necessarily believe that's solely because of her coping mechanisms, but because they know that they have no choice but respect nesta as a constant in their life whether they like it or not, and accept the fact that she wont ever change to fit into their group but they will have to change to fit her because they way theyve been operating all this time isnt gonna work anymore. Sheesh, I thought itd be something way more dramatic than that. Also, this shield he has around Feyre is like that horrible car Edward gave Bella in Breaking Dawn Overprotective much? Nesta had the option to help but instead she made Feyre do it because she wanted to test their father (while letting her siblings starve) every time Feyre asked her to help she refused and instead spent all Feyres money while still being horrible to her little sister. He of all people should know what its like to be used that way! p. 552: I guess Feyres ability to mind speak had to come in useful at some point. And, like I said, I had expectations. Also, please tell me they didnt name their baby boy Nyx, Im dying , Hahaha, Im glad I managed to tranfer at least part of this very unique reading experience to you while saving you from having to read the actual book to satisfy your curiosity (Trust me, if this review killed all your remaining brain cells, then I must have a negative amount left after reading everything in its 751-page glory ). p. 644: Okay, something is definitely gonna happen before tomorrow, theres no way Sarah is going to resolve this drama that easily. I'm excited to see this dynamic in acosf and how sjm executes it. p. 747: I like Eris. No two characters (with debate, of course) are more alike than Feyre and Nesta. Couldnt these tragic backstories have been explored with more nuance and depth? 5 Reasons Why I Didn't Enjoy A Court of Mist and Fury He ignores 90% of his court? Like yes I do see how Rhysand is overprotective of feyre and Nesta can be seen as dangerous.. but the way he treated her sometimes was disgusting and completely unlike him. i'm sucker for good people villains that just wanted peace and happiness but ended up being bad even though it isnt what they want. p. 293: Azriel is possibly the only sane person in this entire series. Bad, most definitely But it was so bad it was also really funny again, so in a way I suppose you could also say it was good? Im also glad I read this post so that I now know about your program giving up Gotta appreciate the honesty. Posted by ; new businesses coming to republic, mo; Nesta has always had a much closer relationship with Elain than she has with Feyre. How long are Fae pregnancies? I mean, some on page representation of an LGBTQ+ relationship is long overdue, but why do all these people have to be paired up with one another?? The reason why I love Nesta is because her character is very complex. Nesta then beheaded, killing him. Sure, sounds logical. I did not read more than the first sentence but was the book good or bad, to you? p. 154: Why do I get the feeling that Nesta is eventually going to become a Valkyrie? Would I appreciate my partner not respecting my body? I dont care how painful it gets, Ill take it! Also, Rhys offered her kindness?? Cassian refrained from whirling on Rhys and Feyre, demanding to know what the hell they were thinking. Yeah, seriously! This book, objectively speaking, was a mess. ). It will either be Rhysand pursuits Feyre, or Nesta comes into the fae world and snatches his heart. She took several deep breaths to calm herself. One morning Tamlin wards the house with her inside, locking her in. They name the girl after Cassians mother. * TikTok video from kina (@kinasoberano): "Reply to @poopoo_peepee6 this is if i remember everything correctly which i think i do, but correct me if i'm wrong #rhysand #rhysandandfeyre #acotar". Rant over. It will either be Rhysand pursuits Feyre, or Nesta comes into the fae world and snatches his heart. p. 491: This is just cruel, plain and simple. And plus, I thought they didnt keep secrets from one another? acotar fancast rhysand - dutchclarke.com Tamlin was so dreamy *sigh*, but Rhysand mysterious drew me to him in just a few pages, like.. men, that was fast. But when it comes to the love of one of his best friend it suddenly changes like wtf. I didnt see much evidence of that. p. 215: This obsessive adoration of Rhysand is not normal. If Feyre had given Rhysand the 'okay' to kill Nesta then that would be the only scene where that would fit right. everything he does is seen from Feyres point of view, which is biased considering he's her mate. Why not let the other person have a life after one of you is dead? p. 558: WHAT?! Yeah, I wouldnt have recommended you read it, either I now have images in my mind that I could have lived without quite contentedly for the rest of my life, and Im not sure I would even have read it if I had known just how smutty it was going to be But it was just so bad and ridiculous that I couldnt help but think it was absolutely hilarious And now that Ive posted my own review, Ive gone on Goodreads to see what other people thought and have discovered a true treasure trove of one-star reviews and people trying to defend this book in their comments. I mean, I probably would, too, but this is kind of disappointing Youd better stay a Valkyrie anyway and keep that sword, Nesta! The third book was basically nothing. THE. The hatred has to come from somewhere right? I love Nesta, I love the story about her trauma, I see a lot of myself in the story, but I did originally read this series for Feyre/Rhysand. Though it might still be a bit too tame. No, especially since they could have chosen to terminate the baby and try again. For more information, please see our i do not understand why nesta does not get any room for mistakes or growth (not that i think this was a mistake). I plan on having children with my primary partner and if he kept information about my reproductive health from me you bet your ass I am socking him in the face and dumping his ass on the curve. Are you seriously telling me Nesta cant make that? I said so, didnt I? Never Alone - Chapter 13 - Frufrusc - A Court of Thorns and Roses So what if war happens. Honeslty though, they should have made Elain the youngest sister. Unpopular opinion: those who apologize for Rhysand and those who hate on Nesta drive me actually insane. Although I kind of suspect SJM of finding some way of making Nesta reach the peak anyway. "I hate that question," Persephone closed her eyes. I mean, of course it did. Yeah- Well, as family of course! Nesta has always had a much closer relationship with Elain than she has with Feyre. I'll just stay here and practice on my . Dont even get me started on the whole Rhysand keeping the fatalities of Feyres pregnancy for her. p. 120: How do you get a black eye from falling down the stairs? For more information, please see our Although I cant help but feel as though parts of their life are being used for shock value, which I dont particularly like. Because entertainment-wise, this book is pure gold. , p. 331: Why shouldnt anyone tell Feyre? p. 548: Ugh, now Nestas having sex visions with Lanthys? p. 488: Rhysand overreacted. IT'S BORING FOR CHARACTERS TO BE PERFECT! Honestly I have been most bored during the moments theyre around. Good lord, isnt that a bit over the top? I will accept nothing beside that in book 2. Because if Nesta is more powerful than Rhys, that means Cassian has to have some hidden power that makes him stronger than Rhys too. Which caused everyone to ignore Feyre. The Night Court goes to help and finds a slaughter in progress. This is abuse, Cassian!! Feyre was the one who kept the family from dying, she was the one who hunted. Elain ACTED like the youngest, the one who needed to be pampered the most. p. 192: Obviously, Rhys, Az, and Cass were the best of the best. . New users, please check the ABOUT section for rules and FAQ. We also hate the idea that the context even remotely covers the shit he did] I have an inherent problem with the idea of "context" and the idea of the "full picture" in . It had no plot, it had nothing except for Feyre whining, everyone hating Nesta (who is the only tolerable character in this whole series), Rhysand as usual only caring about Velaris and ignoring the rest of the nightcourt, and Feyre agreeing with everything Rhysand says. (LogOut/ Privacy Policy. Also, Valkyries are Norse?? And at some point, I think that she realized she was wrong, but thought it was too late to "care" and "atone" for her . p. 519: This really isnt the healthiest relationship. Feyre is acting like Tamlin, which I saw someone else say here as well, and while i understand her reasoning and the fact that Nesta needs that extra intervention, I just dont like how she handles it. My own elder sister cares for me, helps me and shows that she is concerned about me everyday. What trauma could the house have? Weather Greenville North Carolina, p. 394: Well, that certainly turned very steamy very quickly. p. 616: Okay, this is getting kind of over the top. p. 526: I love music in books, but of course, here it was only used as a plot device so that Nesta could figure out where the harp is. Feyre was dancing with Cassian, the two of them carelessly twirling around the dance floor. In a court of mist and fury he was amazing, he seemed to be everything a healthy partner should be! Also, I cant help but feel like this was taken directly from that Disney movie Whats it called again, Smart House? Nesta's Story: Sarah J. Maas' A Court of Silver Flames The Devil You Know - Chapter 5 - serpentandlily - A Court of Thorns and I mean, god forbid anyone be in an intimate relationship without being mated in this series. "You two are just in time for the show," she purred, gesturing for Rhysand to come stand next to her throne. Feyre doesn't call him out, no matter how much y'all like to head cannon that, and we're on book five and he's been . He was my favourite character in a court of mist and fury and now. "A Court of Silver Flames" and will veer from Feyre and Rhysand's points of view to follow the perspective of Nesta and Cassian and their love-hate relationship. For some time, Feyre resided at the Court of Dreams in Velaris after leaving the Spring Court, but during A Court of Mist and Fury, and due to the . p. 498: Well, maybe you shouldnt have treated her this horribly. So yeah, that was it for today! Why am I even reading this? p. 207: Why is everyone so bent on fixing Nesta? Sounds like 50 shades meets The Handmaids Tale. Feyre And Rhysand Quotes. He forbade her to leave the grounds and refused to take notice that Feyre had essentially lost her will to live and was painfully thin. Cassian sees Nesta's face, a mask of pure terror, her body surrounded in silver fire. What is this colonialist rubbish?? "Fine. I feel like SJM didn't do Feyre or Rhysand justice in ACOSF I'm taken aback. p. 385: Im not gonna lie Im kind of enjoying this post almost-death reunion. p. 449: Of course the idiots werent able to resist picking up the swords, Amren. i'm not saying that what he did was ok. it wasn't a great choice. p. 571: So I guess Mor is going to be paired up with Emerie now? But threatening to kill the loved one of your wife is not okay, no matter the situation. "To the people who look at the stars and wish, Rhys." Rhys clinked his glass against mine. It's a convenient excuse, that's what it is. Im sure the sex will start in a page at the latest. What did you expect? He meets Feyre when he saves her from three faeries at Calanmai. Though the foreshadowing for this moment was abysmal at best. I'm trying to say that on the one hand I love Feyre and I'm mad about how Nesta treats her, but on the other hand, I also know that it is difficult for her to show weakness (because in the world in which she lived as a human, weakness meant death) and I sympathize for Nesta. The Cauldron is fixed, but Feyre is distraught and demands that the other high lords resurrect him, like they did for her. We also know that nesta is alluded to be connected to the mother and there is no one more powerful than her. Why Nesta hates Feyre | Fandom Literally that's what pro-choice is, and Rhysand chooses to not tell Feyre important medical information. Seriously, are they insane! Why is Rhys so mean to Nesta and so Forgiving to Elain? You think you embarrassed yourself because you didnt pleasure Nesta? Feyre Archeron | A Court of Thorns and Roses Wiki | Fandom Look I know that Rhys was supposed to act like a bad person in those scenes but he touches Feyre without her permission which is weird, disgusting and triggering,even for the person he was Under The . Why is Rhys so mean to Nesta and so Forgiving to Elain? It feels a Yeah- Well, as family of course! Did you like Nesta? Even when on official business? p. 41: SO MUCH INNUENDO Even when the book is not about Feyre and Rhys, we apparently have to keep hearing about their amazing sex. Not long. A Court of Thorns and Roses Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Nesta was deemed the villain in the situation for telling Feyre, and she was so scorned for it that Rhysand kicked her out of Velaris, but he himself faced no repercussions. And he literally locked you in a house??? I mean, every womans ultimate goal in life should be motherhood and housewife-dom, right? Nesta has this epic power to forge blades and nobody wants to tell her except Cassian and Azriel?! why tf does no one hold this man to any standard it's so fucked blech, Since I dont plan on reading this book, I felt I could safely read this. Rhysand (pronounced Ree-sand) is the most powerful High Lord in history and the current ruler of the Night Court, alongside Feyre Archeron. Was it sexy? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. p. 487: No Nesta, you did NOT do an unforgiveable thing! Any sign of sadness was diluted away. Why do I hate Rhysand? : r/acotar Look at Yen from the Witcher, for example, my top kin. p. 193: If I hear change comes slowly one more time Just go ahead and reform your sexist society already, and stop making excuses! He might be the only at least semi-normal person in the Inner Circle. Rhysand treats all the women in his life with equality and respect, and he reminds Feyre that she always has an independent choice in every matter. p. 467: Ugh, why is Rhys paying Elain flirty compliments now? Why do I keep getting myself into this? I think there's an argument that could be made that Nesta will be ultimately more powerful, but only if she works through her depression/self loathing enough to get to them. p. 482: Yes! p. 238: Yeah, Feyre, it does kind of seem like youre using this as leverage to get Nesta to like you. does lazarbeam have a wife; Books. Instead of that though, we get Rhys scaring Nesta for fun. 2. I honestly see so many people try to romanticize this, saying its hot or sexy No, no it wasnt. Not when Feyre is everything that Nesta is- and everything Nesta wishes she could be. It sounds like a romance to me from the first sentence so i will not be reading this ever probbably. Not to mention the fact that if Feyre had heard that Rhysand was going to kill Nesta, probably wouldve terrified her even more than she already was (especially coming from her mate). And cassian and feyre both know this, and the rest knows this. when do nesta and cassian become mates. 99 notes. The language she uses to describe her and her behaviour throughout is never outright rude, even if nesta is, but theres a lot of admiration and rhysand cant ever deny that. A big indicator of a character's complexity is their character arc, in my opinion. p. 250: Gosh, with everyone having super-scent, you never have any privacy, do you? I thought you were supposed to be in love with her! and our . In fact, Nesta is probably gonna use her fancy powers to save them, to make the family happy once and for all . I hope you had fun reading this, and if youve read A Court of Silver Flames, do tell me what you thought of it! Im not angry that Rhysand is a terrible person, Im angry that I thought he was great.